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  • Hi. I read the Goo boss guide article (thanks Shadow Automaton) saying you should never waste upgrade scrolls on leather armor or below, and avoid wasting them on anything other than plate armor. If you only have regular cloth armor or leather armor at say level 4 and they won't absorb enough to protect you from Goo, can you use them on that? The thing is that not everyone finds +3 plate armor in the first 5 levels so it could be a waste if you find scale/plate on level 6 and realise you wasted several upgrade scrolls on something you aren't even going to use anymore.


    I get that because a +10 cloth armor still won't get you through much (obviously) but what happens if you have to use them if you can't find better armor?

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    • Nah, it is just not worth it.

      The fight is certainly beatable without upgraded high-tier armor. And +2-4 additional damage reduction wouldn't really change anything. 

      Just use a seed of earthroot or sungrass to mitigate damage received. Use throwing weapons/potions/bombs to "soften up" Goo before fight. That's all.

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    • I beat Goo once with +3 or +4 scale armor (20 absorption) but all my other attempts I had cloth armor, or leather armor, and mail armor once, and I lost all of those so I thought the armor might be it...

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    • No, it's more of the weapon. The faster you finish the fight, the less damage you take. You probably want a good weapon that your Hero/ine can handle. If your playing as the Warrior, you can upgrade his starting weapon (Short Sword) once and it wouldn't be wasted. You can upgrade something else with the +1 Short Sword by hitting the 'Reforge' button. Make sure you only upgrade it once though, otherwise you will be wasting the others. It only gives the weapon one more upgrade level.

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    • Well, I upgraded a +2 scale armor (found in the dungeon) to +4 (24 absorption) today, and I got a quarterstaff from the sad ghost, gave it the unstable enchantment, and then I got to Goo. You won't believe what happened, I drank a potion of healing, threw a bomb, shattered a honeypot to get the golden bee, and both me and Goo had 1 health left soon, then Goo killed me and then guess what happened next? The golden bee killed Goo. But by then I was already dead. Such a waste. 

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    • Ultimatecub wrote:
      (thanks Shadow Automaton)

      You're welcome!  (^_^)

      If you only have regular cloth armor, or leather armor, at say, level*Depth* 4, and they won't absorb enough to protect you from Goo, can you use them on that?

      You could, but you'd regret that decision later on, because as you yourself stated:  ↓

      ...it could be a waste if you find scale/plate on level*Depth* 6 and realiserealize you wasted several upgrade scrolls on something you aren't even going to use anymore.

      Especially with a limited number of Upgrade scrolls.

      Before you start a game, envision/pre-plan the amount of upgrades you wish to have on the items you wish to keep as your end-game equipment.  This should solve your Upgrade prioritization issues.

      ...what happens if you have to use them, if you can't find better armor?

      First things first:

      1.)  You shouldn't be that reliant on armor alone, so early in the game.

      2.)  As the first person that replied to this thread has already stated, what you need to rely more on are (finding) the seeds, as priority #1 - most especially the Seed of Earthroot (while standing on a water tile), as your actual "armor" for the boss fight.

      As for offensive purposes, you'll need to plant either/both a Seed of Sorrowmoss and/or Seed of Firebloom for Goo to step on, before your fight officially begins.

      This was also covered in the Goo Boss Guide I wrote, so please review that.

      3.)  If you have neither the necessary seeds, nor the good armor (nor plenty of Potions of Healing, if you have neither of the first two) by the time you reach Goo, then you're simply better off starting a new run (either by intentionally dying, to provide your successor a chance to gain an equipped item via Hero's Remains, or by just erasing the current game session).

      You could also try your luck & do what SS99 advised, and pour your Upgrade scrolls into your best weapon (provided you found a Tier-4/Tier-5 weapon/Wand of Firebolt that early, and have sufficient amount of Healing potions to sustain you through the fight).

      Again, I've covered nearly all the angles of the boss fight against Goo, so please review the fight path that most closely resembles which approach you'll take & what items you have in your Backpack, in the Goo Boss Guide.

      I drank a potion of healing, threw a bomb, shattered a honeypot to get the golden bee...

      You probably should've done that in reverse order, so you could've landed more attacks & survived.

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    • Thanks, and I usually use them now I have the updated version with seeds. I just mentioned what happened in  my last game ^_^ with the golden bee and guess that's what happens when you haven't got seeds. Seems ironic somehow


      Edit: The time I beat Goo I had both an Earthroot and Sorrowmoss, but that fight was in the corridor and I didn't have anywhere to get away from Goo's pumped up attack.

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    • Ultimatecub wrote:

      Edit: The time I beat Goo I had both an Earthroot and Sorrowmoss, but that fight was in the corridor and I didn't have anywhere to get away from Goo's pumped up attack.

      You should've been able to escape from Goo's "pumped up" attack (unless you were in the corner of the corridor. If you were, you should go diagonally instead of walking onto every tile to save moves).

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    • In the corridor I had to


      1. step off the Earthroot plant to escape from the pumped up attack (then the plant vanished)

      2. when Goo started pumping up I ran away straight away but then Goo used the next turn to run after me...

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    • Ultimatecub wrote:
      In the corridor I had to 1. step off the Earthroot plant to escape from the pumped up attack (then the plant vanished)

      I'm not going to repeat myself here, so here's the link to the discussion that covers this: Thread:30503#4.  

      2. when Goo started pumping up I ran away straight away but then Goo used the next turn to run after me...

      So you're saying that he ran after you then attacked you with his "pumped up" attack? Was that all in one turn? How many tiles were you away from him? If you weren't 2 tiles away from him, then that sounds about right.

      After he pumped himself up, I decided to hit him once more. After that, I decided to move away from him, but then he moved after me and attacked me with his "pumped up" attack all in 1 turn. (This happened a long time ago when I didn't know a lot about the game.)

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    • SuperSaiyan99 wrote:
      I'm not going to repeat myself here, so here's the link to the discussion that covers this: Thread:30503#4.

      The funny part is, I already answered his/her triply-repeated explanation in the Goo Boss Guide.  LoL

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    • OK, I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it.

      I played another game

      Warrior

      +3 Regular Sword (enchanted with Eldritch)

      Regular cloth armor

      I put a Seed of Sorrowmoss in the doorway and a Seed of Earthroot on a water tile behind it, woke Goo up and made it step on the SoSRM. I didn't move off the SoE at all in the whole fight and was going to beat Goo in the next 2 or 3 hits then Goo killed me when my health wasn't actually that low.

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    • Ultimatecub wrote: Regular cloth armor

      Ooh, did you not find better armor? You probably needed something a little better. (One that you find rather than upgrade.)

      I put a Seed of Sorrowmoss in the doorway and a Seed of Earthroot on a water tile behind it, woke Goo up and made it step on the SoSRM. I didn't move off the SoE at all in the whole fight and was going to beat Goo in the next 2 or 3 hits then Goo killed me when my health wasn't actually that low.

      How much health did you have? He shouldn't have been able to kill you unless you lost the buff the turn before he killed.

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    • I won't repeat my explanations and don't want to digress from the original topic about Upgrade scrolls, so could you put that stuff on my wall please?

      ON TOPIC:

      Sometimes you don't find good armor so you have to either waste upgrade scrolls on low level armor or keep going for the weapon (which is what I did...didn't work this time.) It should really be a big waste if you use them on Cloth Armor but as I mentioned above (trying to use this to stay on topic) it can make you get killed by Goo, for example.

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    • Ultimatecub wrote:

      Sometimes you don't find good armor so you have to either waste upgrade scrolls on low level armor or keep going for the weapon (which is what I did...didn't work this time.) It should really be a big waste if you use them on Cloth Armor but as I mentioned above... it can make you get killed by Goo, for example.

      Yes, I know. You can also try upgrading rings if you find some. The Ring of Haste and the Ring of Evasion are great rings to upgrade.

      I usually don't upgrade anything until the Prison stage or even the Caves stage if I don't find anything good.

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